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AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Launch Allegedly Set for March 6

Earlier this week, it was reported that AMD is preparing at least online media event to announce and detail its upcoming Radeon RX 9070 series next-generation graphics cards powered by the RDNA 4 graphics architecture. It turns out that both the Radeon RX 9070 XT and Radeon RX 9070 will be available on March 6, 2025, 's Hardware. Reviews of the two cards should go live some time between the late-February media event and this launch date. AMD launching the RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 on the same date isn't the only thing the two SKUs share. Both SKUs max out the 4 nm "Navi 48" silicon they're based on, and are differentiated by clock speeds. The two are expected to square off against NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5070 series.

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We need more leaks, teasers, announcements, unboxings, influencers showing their shit. What we don't need is reasonably priced and available cards. What a time to be alive. , 18:59 Reply.

“Both SKUs max out the 4 nm "Navi 48" silicon they're based on, and are differentiated by clock speeds.”.

I still find this an… interesting… approach as far as the yields go. Do they expect to get that many fully functional chips that it will be easily possible to saturate supply for two SKUs? Are scuffed Navi 48s are then going into a hypothetical 9060XT? Just weird. I guess it sorta worked for the 7600XT? , 19:01 Reply.

so uniko says the data is unknown, and videocardz quotes them as the source for the day 6 launch. I'm missing something or someone is off their meds. , 19:05 Reply.

Bomby569 We need more leaks, teasers, announcements, unboxings, influencers showing their shit. What we don't need is reasonably priced and available cards. What a time to be alive. Reviewers no doubt already have the data, the cards were supposed to launch on the 23rd of January if I am not mistaken. The teasing from AMD is annoying though, as we can extrapolate performance metrics due to the RTX5080 & 7900XTX, but it would however be nice to have the performance confirmations, as for the price reveal, I am sure AMD, like nGreedia are hell bend on screwing us anyway. Reviewers no doubt already have the data, the cards were supposed to launch on the 23rd of January if I am not mistaken. The teasing from AMD is annoying though, as we can extrapolate performance metrics due to the RTX5080 & 7900XTX, but it would however be nice to have the performance confirmations, as for the price reveal, I am sure AMD, like nGreedia are hell bend on screwing us anyway. , 19:11 Reply.

Bomby569 so uniko says the data is unknown, and videocardz quotes them as the source for the day 6 launch. I'm missing something or someone is off their meds. I understand it as the cards will be available for sale on March 6th, however the timing of the official launch event prior to them being made available for sale is still unknown. I understand it as the cards will be available for sale on March 6th, however the timing of the official launch event prior to them being made available for sale is still unknown. , 19:12 Reply.

Absolutely thrilled by this release. All fingers crossed for FSR 4 to be good and for the supply chain to be functional. , 19:16 Reply.

Astronaut My next upgrade will be a 2nm TSMC based gpu, so I think I have what a 3 year wait most likely? That'll do. , 19:25 Reply.

Bomby569 so uniko says the data is unknown, and videocardz quotes them as the source for the day 6 launch. I'm missing something or someone is off their meds. The Uniko page has already changed, it now looks like the below - note how "2025 March 6" is now just "early March". Either this is an actual leak and AMD was unhappy about that and ordered it removed (although the.

Space Lynx My next upgrade will be a 2nm TSMC based gpu, so I think I have what a 3 year wait most likely? That'll do. Yes, this coupled with the 10800X3D... it's going to be one hell of a generation to upgrade, but my enthusiasm is curbed, as once again, the industry has showed us, there will always be a "miraculous supply shortage" or well timed "disaster" or Yes, this coupled with the 10800X3D... it's going to be one hell of a generation to upgrade, but my enthusiasm is curbed, as once again, the industry has showed us, there will always be a "miraculous supply shortage" or well timed "disaster" or , 19:40 Reply.

What a fine 44th bday present for me. It superior be good AMD! , 19:42 Reply.

Space Lynx My next upgrade will be a 2nm TSMC based gpu, so I think I have what a 3 year wait most likely? That'll do. 5-6Years*.

2nm will remain expensive and prohibitive for some time, while Nvidia and AMD will rely on 3nm variants... perhaps for the next two generations. :rolleyes:

The release date is exactly as I expected; the first week of March, ensuring competitors are in the charts by review day. 5-6Years*2nm will remain expensive and prohibitive for some time, while Nvidia and AMD will rely on 3nm variants... perhaps for the next two generations. :rolleyes:The release date is exactly as I expected; the first week of March, ensuring competitors are in the charts by review day. , 19:46 Reply.

They can pretty much price them at what they want, so long as their IN STOCK.

E-tailers and shelves are damn near empty when it comes to GPU's. Unless you want a 4060 or 7700XT. , 19:47 Reply.

Dahita Absolutely thrilled by this release. All fingers crossed for FSR 4 to be good and for the supply chain to be functional. RX 9000 has been more interesting to me to follow than RTX 5000 rn. Could just be hype making me say that, but I'm curious to see if AMD's strategy works. It's no Polaris strategy but it could be just as fondly remembered in the future. Legacy-ZA The teasing from AMD is annoying though, as we can extrapolate performance metrics due to the RTX5080 & 7900XTX, but it would however be nice to have the performance confirmations, as for the price reveal, I am sure AMD, like nGreedia are hell bend on screwing us anyway. Any performance metrics would be nice right now. And none of the bull that NVIDIA tried to pull with MFG included with their chart comparisons. Soo basically sometime in Q1 (pretty sure this was even said somewhere else too.) March wasn't surprisingRX 9000 has been more interesting to me to follow than RTX 5000 rn. Could just be hype making me say that, but I'm curious to see if AMD's strategy works. It's no Polaris strategy but it could be just as fondly remembered in the [website] performance metrics would be nice right now. And none of the bull that NVIDIA tried to pull with MFG included with their chart comparisons. , 19:50 Reply.

Get ready for 5x series style massive disappointment me thinks... , 19:57 Reply.

If it is priced around the 5070 with Ti-level performance, I’ll be satisfied. , 19:58 Reply.

Prepare yourselves to be disappointed at the price. , 20:08 Reply.

Evrsr Prepare yourselves to be disappointed at the price. Well, let's put it this way, this is AMD's make it or break it moment, that price enhanced be very attractive. Well, let's put it this way, this is AMD's make it or break it moment, that price enhanced be very attractive. , 20:17 Reply.

Evrsr Prepare yourselves to be disappointed at the price. mb194dc Get ready for 5x series style massive disappointment me thinks... Oh trust me, its AMD, people are (hopefully) prepared. Doesn't mean there isn't any hope, though. AMD either wins gets a gold medal or gets booed off the stage at this rate. Legacy-ZA Well, let's put it this way, this is AMD's make it or break it moment, that price advanced be very attractive. Great way to put it! Oh trust me, its AMD, people are (hopefully) prepared. Doesn't mean there isn't any hope, though. AMD either wins gets a gold medal or gets booed off the stage at this [website] way to put it! , 20:18 Reply.

hsew If it is priced around the 5070 with Ti-level performance, I’ll be satisfied. No way, and we both know it. No way, and we both know it. , 20:24 Reply.

is it just me that thinks that even if they were finishing up the details on the drivers or whatever they are doing, seeing as the cards are already on the hands of the retail, AMD knows full well the costs and what they can ask for these cards, SO there is no good reason for them to no having showcased the price already UNLESS it's shit. They leaked everything else already.

My bet is we are in for more disappointment. , 20:25 Reply.

Bomby569 is it just me that thinks that even if they were finishing up the details on the drivers or whatever they are doing, seeing as the cards are already on the hands of the retail, AMD knows full well the costs and what they can ask for these cards, SO there is no good reason for them to no having showcased the price already UNLESS it's shit. They leaked everything else already.

My bet is we are in for more disappointment. AMD aims to present its launch in the most favorable light. Preventing Nvidia from adjusting its prices and worsening the perception of AMD's product launches seems like a valid reason. AMD aims to present its launch in the most favorable light. Preventing Nvidia from adjusting its prices and worsening the perception of AMD's product launches seems like a valid reason. , 20:48 Reply.

Denver Preventing Nvidia from adjusting its prices and worsening the perception of AMD's product launches seems like a valid reason. So, after day 6 or on that exact day why can't Nvidia adjust their prices? So, after day 6 or on that exact day why can't Nvidia adjust their prices? , 21:08 Reply.

Legacy-ZA Reviewers no doubt already have the data, the cards were supposed to launch on the 23rd of January if I am not mistaken. The teasing from AMD is annoying though, as we can extrapolate performance metrics due to the RTX5080 & 7900XTX, but it would however be nice to have the performance confirmations, as for the price reveal, I am sure AMD, like nGreedia are hell bend on screwing us anyway. Reviewers don't have data. While they have the cards, AMD hasn't released the drivers for them. Reviewers don't have data. While they have the cards, AMD hasn't released the drivers for them. , 21:11 Reply.

Darc Requiem Reviewers don't have data. While they have the cards, AMD hasn't released the drivers for them. True, but I am sure they tinkered with current drivers, I know I would have. :) True, but I am sure they tinkered with current drivers, I know I would have. :) , 21:16 Reply.

Bomby569 So, after day 6 or one that exact day why can't Nvidia adjust their prices? NVIDIA can do it easily, reviewers will hardly adjust though. NVIDIA can do it easily, reviewers will hardly adjust though. , 21:23 Reply.

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Hecate91 Yeah that is a good point, thanks.

Someone else pointed out AMD has a client & gaming revenue of 20% or less, no rationality in arguing who is greedy. I'm just so tired of the mindshare crapping up every AMD related thread.

Sound_Card Don't take this the wrong way, but you and a few others need to stop taking obvious 'bait' from obvious trolls. When you say things like 'Ngreedia', he gets what he wants. One could even make the case that both of you are being insecure. The guy is an obvious troll, just ignore him.

Full fiscal year: $7B in revenue, but only $897M in profit. What does that tell you? So the operating profit margin for the Client segment is around [website], slightly higher than 10%.

When product prices plummet, it’s not the retailers or AIBs taking the hit—it’s AMD, Banking discounts to liquidate inventory.

Denver I have no doubt that Nvidia enjoys significantly higher margins, as even subpar products like the 4060 Ti manage to retain their price across most markets. It's all about brainwashing > performance.

Pot calling the kettle black. People like you and Sound Card take every possible chance to cry about nvidia being the one true evil and how consumers are all dumb sheep. It's like clockwork, every time.Pointing out repeating juvenile talking points with no merit isn't trolling.Interesting. I looked up Nvidia's as well, and while they do not seem to break out the operating income of the gaming division individually like AMD does, their full year revenue for the gaming division is [website] billion. So, despite the indicates that "nobody buys AMD" It would seem plenty of people are, in fact, buying AMD. And that is with an absolutely disastrous fourth [website] makes margins harder to figure out, they do post these numbers for "graphics", which appears to be professional visualization and automotive mixed together with the gaming division. That comes out to 43% margin, who known how much of that is GPUs. I'd think there's a reason those are all mixed [website] also displays their compute division hitting [website] margins, compared to AMD's [website] That's despite AMD's revenue increasing 94% and EPYC being a very in demand product. And we know those MI300 accelerators are not sitting on shelves overstocked, that would point to AMD having some severe cost overruns that nvidia doesnt [website] It's not brainwashing, or mindshare, or the hidden soviet agent in your closet. It's always been about having a competitive product. The last time AMD was truly competitive with nvidia across the board was the HD [website] 2012. Arguably in 2014 the hawaii chips were also very [website] then, it has been rebrands, rehashes, half generations, and slow, hot products. The 300 sereis was rebrand central and the less efficient GCN started looking real bad against maxwell (and my personal theory, pissed of evergreen owners from the old days were not happy with AMD leaving their GPUs half unusable around the same time, and jumped to team green, resulting in maxwell's incredible performance). Polaris left a huge market open with 0 competition and more crucially provided no true upgrade path for 290x owners or 7000 series owners who didnt think the 290x at $300 was a good enough value. The vega 64 was late to market, hot, slow, and MORE expensive then the 1080. Total facepalm. The fury x was an absolute joke. The 5000 series was not feature competitive (no RT, no mesh shaders) and again left the high end empty. rDNA2 was a huge step in the right direction, but it got kneecapped by covid production restrictions and EPYC's success. rDNA3 failed to follow up on rDNA2's improvements, and AMD started playing pricing games to push people up market, while leaving crucial markets like the 7800xt with just....nothing, and the 7600 market with really 0 actual improvement over the more avilable 6600 [website] of this is nVidias fault. AMD has been pursuing the "premium brand" (lisa's description) label but without the premium attributes, and aftera decade+ of this type of behavior many in the AMD community are tired of the "just wait (tm)" meme, so they go to team green. If I want a 6800xt replacement, the 7900xtx was good but not fast enough for the $$$, and now the 9000 series will have nothing to offer me, so I get to either wait another 2 years and hope AMD bothers to try with uDNA, or go nvidia.

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Intel Xeon Server Processor Shipments Fall to a 13-Year Low

Intel's data center business has experienced a lot of decline in recent years. Once the go-to choice for data center buildout, nowadays, Xeon processors have reached a 13-year low. , the once mighty has fallen to a 13-year low number, less than 50% of its CPU sales in the peak observed in 2021. In a chart that is indexed to 2011 CPU volume, the analysis gathered from server volume and 10K fillings exhibits the decline that Intel has experienced in recent years. Following the 2021 peak, the volume of shipped CPUs has remained in free fall, reaching less than 50% of its once-dominant position. The main cause for this volume contraction is attributed to Intel's competitors gaining massive traction. AMD, with its EPYC CPUs, has been Intel's primary competitor, pushing the boundaries on CPU core count per socket and performance per watt, all at an attractive price [website] a recent earnings call, Intel's interim c-CEO leadership admitted that Intel is still behind the competition with regard to performance, even with Granite Rapids and Clearwater Forest, which promised to be their advantage in the data center. "So I think it would not be unfathomable that I would put a data center product outside if that meant that I hit the right product, the right market window as well as the right performance for my clients," expressed Intel co-CEO Michelle Johnston Holthaus, adding that "Intel Foundry will need to earn my business every day, just as I need to earn the business of my clients." This confirms that the business is now dedicated to restoring its product leadership, even if its internal foundry is not doing okay. It will take some time before Intel CPU volume shipments recover, and with AMD executing well in data center, it is becoming a highly intense battle.

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Its going to get a lot worse for them given they are nowhere near competition at this point. , 13:51 Reply.

Not to mention server clients stick with what they have for a long time. Meaning once gone it takes a long time to get them back. , 13:56 Reply.

Tomorrow Not to mention server end-clients stick with what they have for a long time. Meaning once gone it takes a long time to get them back. Depends on the demand, sometimes they just add more and more. And the reason intel maintained such high dominance was their sheer production volume against AMD's share of TSMC's production, but now TSMC has a lot more production. Depends on the demand, sometimes they just add more and more. And the reason intel maintained such high dominance was their sheer production volume against AMD's share of TSMC's production, but now TSMC has a lot more production. , 14:27 Reply.

I'm trying to understand the CEO Lingo here but are they kinda saying that it might not be complete bullshit that they might actually NOT release something every year if the product isn't deemed good enough?

Seeing is believing... I think Intel does need that, a breather. Yes, you won't release something for a year. And then you make something that's competitive again. , 14:53 Reply.

Chaitanya Its going to get a lot worse for them given they are nowhere near competition at this point. ^this was a looong time coming and because Intel has nothing to offer in the [website] rough times ahead. ^this was a looong time coming and because Intel has nothing to offer in the [website] rough times ahead. , 15:03 Reply.

Chaitanya Its going to get a lot worse for them given they are nowhere near competition at this point. ZoneDymo ^this was a looong time coming and because Intel has nothing to offer in the [website] rough times ahead. Total nonsense. AMD & ARM have eaten into Intel market share, they have not toppled it, nor will they. This is a combination of AMD CPU's and ARM CPU's being utilized in the server market sector. This same thing happened in the mid 2000's with the Opteron's which were very competitive with the Xeon's of the time. Then the Conroe types hit the market and Intel came charging [website] nonsense. AMD & ARM have eaten into Intel market share, they have not toppled it, nor will they. , 15:27 Reply.

Where's that other graph, "number of people fired for buying Intel vs. year"? , 15:39 Reply.

lexluthermiester This is a combination of AMD CPU's and ARM CPU's being utilized in the server market sector. This same thing happened in the mid 2000's with the Opteron's which were very competitive with the Xeon's of the time. Then the Conroe types hit the market and Intel came charging back.

Total nonsense. AMD & ARM have eaten into Intel market share, they have not toppled it, nor will they. I would add GPUs as well because some tasks that were performed by CPUs in the past have moved to GPUs. Revenue wise, AMD has already toppled Intel. From the looks of it, AMD makes more money from Epycs than Intel does from Xeons. If you combine Epycs and ARM server CPUs, the total shipped is well above the total Xeons shipped. I know this is a hard reality to understand since it's happening almost overnight.

Client CPUs are a different story with Intel shipping way more CPUs into the laptop and desktop space than anyone else. I would add GPUs as well because some tasks that were performed by CPUs in the past have moved to GPUs. Revenue wise, AMD has already toppled Intel. From the looks of it, AMD makes more money from Epycs than Intel does from Xeons. If you combine Epycs and ARM server CPUs, the total shipped is well above the total Xeons shipped. I know this is a hard reality to understand since it's happening almost [website] CPUs are a different story with Intel shipping way more CPUs into the laptop and desktop space than anyone else. , 15:53 Reply.

Intel Cannot see the Writing on the wall it seems.

They need to basicly go back to engineering again build up some new CPU's from the ground up. They need to think Low Power, Massive ammount of cores, and Solid and good pricing.

Intel has lost the Server market, Lost the Desktop Market. Lost the workstation market to AMD. I mean low in sales do you need to go before you catch on. I have had intels for a long time. Each time I looked at upgrading I wanted a double ammount of cores. Like going from a core 2 duo to a core 2 quad, Then I went into a core i7 2600k to a 3770k. Then I wanted 8 cores so I when with a core i9 9900 KFC still running this CPU today in my gaming box. I been wanting to upgrade but I see nothing in intel that interests me. Not a single pure 16 core CPU for desktop anywhere. Only option is AMD. Kinda leaning towards a Ryzen 9 9950X3D.

I'm quite Sure AMD will release a 32 core Desktop CPU in the next couple of years. At that point if intel does not have something in those lines might as well go out of business. , 16:03 Reply.

Lycanwolfen Intel Cannot see the Writing on the wall it seems. Intel went from the very peak of its business in 2020-2021 to being targeted for buyout after collapsing just four years later. Everyone at that organization has to be shellshocked right now with the chaos of massive layoffs hurting moral in every department. Intel went from the very peak of its business in 2020-2021 to being targeted for buyout after collapsing just four years later. Everyone at that organization has to be shellshocked right now with the chaos of massive layoffs hurting moral in every department. , 16:24 Reply.

No wonder Papa went out to buy cigarettes. , 16:38 Reply.

Lycanwolfen Each time I looked at upgrading I wanted a double ammount of cores. Like going from a core 2 duo to a core 2 quad, Then I went into a core i7 2600k to a 3770k. I'm not sure if upgrade is the right word but I do a bit of back and forth like a rubberband with cores/threads.

In 2004 I wanted the Pentium 4 because high core clock and 2x threads. It was a workhorse but a high voltage thermal bomb at best.

In 2009 I went Phenom II X4. First 64-bit chip, factory speeds breaching beyond 3GHz and quad core/thread. Great chip limited by 4GB of the worst memory.

I was on that until the VR era before hopping over to FX-8370 and kinda stayed there until curious about Ryzen's SMT and new storage technology like [website].

While the jump from 8c/8t to 6c/12t is weird and underwhelming, it definitely stirred enough efficiency improvements that I'm satisfied with it.

89W->125W->125W->65W is a wild roadmap when you consider that I've been running them all on the same water cooling technology the entire time.

I've never been able to consider a Xeon chip when new or used. There's just nothing exciting about them other than dirt cheap used prices.

A few years ago I picked up a 1c/1t eMachines dono to do my heavy lifting and it works GREAT. Not flawless but 1c/1t 15W running 2 HDDs 24/7 is fantastic.

Everyone has different needs but some of us push everything into the extremes just because it can be done. We do need more low power chips on the market. I'm not sure if upgrade is the right word but I do a bit of back and forth like a rubberband with cores/[website] 2004 I wanted the Pentium 4 because high core clock and 2x threads. It was a workhorse but a high voltage thermal bomb at [website] 2009 I went Phenom II X4. First 64-bit chip, factory speeds breaching beyond 3GHz and quad core/thread. Great chip limited by 4GB of the worst [website] was on that until the VR era before hopping over to FX-8370 and kinda stayed there until curious about Ryzen's SMT and new storage technology like [website] the jump from 8c/8t to 6c/12t is weird and underwhelming, it definitely stirred enough efficiency improvements that I'm satisfied with [website];125W->125W->65W is a wild roadmap when you consider that I've been running them all on the same water cooling technology the entire [website]'ve never been able to consider a Xeon chip when new or used. There's just nothing exciting about them other than dirt cheap used [website] few years ago I picked up a 1c/1t eMachines dono to do my heavy lifting and it works GREAT. Not flawless but 1c/1t 15W running 2 HDDs 24/7 is fantastic.Everyone has different needs but some of us push everything into the extremes just because it can be done. We do need more low power chips on the market. , 16:50 Reply.

Intel will be fine as a department of the US government. , 17:02 Reply.

DaemonForce Everyone has different needs but some of us push everything into the extremes just because it can be done. We do need more low power chips on the market. I'm an IPC guy myself. I was all Intel until K8 since the P4 was horrible. I stayed on K8 and its derivatives until Core was too hard to ignore and switched to Haswell since Bulldozer was horrible. I upgraded to Coffee Lake and then Zen was too hard to ignore so I switched to Zen 4. Alder Lake was okay but I wanted just the P-cores for the IPC. Now it looks like IPC stagnation has set in so I might have to switch my upgrades to higher core counts. Visible Noise Intel will be fine as a department of the US government. Only about 10% of Intel's business is from the government so you are saying revenues will be in the $1B to $2B range per quarter which means massive debt running mostly empty fabs at a tenth capacity. That would mean massive tax payer bailouts to compensate for the debt every quarter. I'm not sure I know of any examples where a enterprise received such treatment from the government quarter after quarter for more than maybe a year. I'm an IPC guy myself. I was all Intel until K8 since the P4 was horrible. I stayed on K8 and its derivatives until Core was too hard to ignore and switched to Haswell since Bulldozer was horrible. I upgraded to Coffee Lake and then Zen was too hard to ignore so I switched to Zen 4. Alder Lake was okay but I wanted just the P-cores for the IPC. Now it looks like IPC stagnation has set in so I might have to switch my upgrades to higher core [website] about 10% of Intel's business is from the government so you are saying revenues will be in the $1B to $2B range per quarter which means massive debt running mostly empty fabs at a tenth capacity. That would mean massive tax payer bailouts to compensate for the debt every quarter. I'm not sure I know of any examples where a enterprise received such treatment from the government quarter after quarter for more than maybe a year. , 17:02 Reply.

Part of the Intel strategy seems to be their specialized accelerators in their server CPUs, for big data processing and analytics. Problem is, they require software support to enable, some cost extra as far as I know, and do not exist on non-server chips. Once people leave Intel on the client and workstation side, the advantage of familiarity evaporates and special accelerators become more of a hindrance. I have viewed their client and workstation chips as a gateway to their server stuff because of things like AVX-512, AMX and so on. , 17:24 Reply.

Chomiq No wonder Papa went out to buy cigarettes. Papa fell out a window russian style. Visible Noise Intel will be fine as a department of the US government. Government wants only the fabs though. Papa fell out a window russian style.Government wants only the fabs though. , 17:41 Reply.

MaMoo Part of the Intel strategy seems to be their specialized accelerators in their server CPUs, for big data processing and analytics. Problem is, they require software support to enable, some cost extra as far as I know, and do not exist on non-server chips. Once people leave Intel on the client and workstation side, the advantage of familiarity evaporates and special accelerators become more of a hindrance. I have viewed their client and workstation chips as a gateway to their server stuff because of things like AVX-512, AMX and so on. Their biggest issue there is that AMD absolutely clobbered Intel in AVX512 implementation, taking all the wind out of their sales. Their biggest issue there is that AMD absolutely clobbered Intel in AVX512 implementation, taking all the wind out of their sales. , 19:00 Reply.

Their SKUs got really weird and difficult to understand, there were like 60 different parts with different core counts, weird niche accelerators that were locked behind a paywall and required code to leverage, all of which were overpriced compared to alternatives that might have more cores, more performance and advanced power consumption. Then there was the huge issue with intels inability to keep up with TSMC. It was a fatal blow of marketing and manufacturing incompetence and bad leadership.

Expect a headline like this for client segment coming soon. Was in a best buy the other day, and saw 14900Ks on the shelf for $499, there's a price those will sell at, but its not that. , 19:18 Reply.

Lycanwolfen [website] need to think Low Power, Massive ammount of cores, and Solid and good pricing... Actually Intel did that many years ago with Intel Xeon Phi processors and failed. This is because for the core part of Intel Xeon Phi architecture Intel Atom architecture was selected instead of Intel Ivy Bridge.

I was using an Intel Xeon Phi server for many months to port a medium size C/C++ project. All my feelings I would describe as follows ( some kind of transitions ):

Very Excited -> I have a lot of questions -> Sorry, but that does Not work Too Fast and I need More memory! -> On one morning the Project was cancelled. Oops...

Low power - Intel Atom based low power cores did Not help. The Intel Xeon Phi servers were using a lot of power.

Number of Cores - Looked good but out of 256 Logical Processors only 64 had to be used in order to achieve top HPC performance ( in FLOPS ).

Note: There was only one physical FPU ( Floating Point Unit ) for 4 Logical Processors in a physical core.

Pricing - All these Intel Xeon Phi servers were very-very expensive. Actuallydid that many years ago withprocessors and failed. This is because for the core part ofarchitecturearchitecture was selected instead ofI was using anserver for many months to port a medium size C/C++ project. All my feelings I would describe as follows ( some kind of transitions ):Very Excited -> I have a lot of questions -> Sorry, but that does Not work Too Fast and I need More memory! -> On one morning the Project was cancelled. [website] low power cores did Not help. Theservers were using a lot of power.- Looked good but out of 256 Logical Processors only 64 had to be used in order to achieve top HPC performance ( in FLOPS ).Note: There was only one physical FPU ( Floating Point Unit ) for 4 Logical Processors in a physical core.- All theseservers were very-very expensive. , 20:56 Reply.

14th Gen reliability issues were also first noticed in server farms. , 22:29 Reply.

One of Intel's biggest issues is Turin. Right when Intel launched all new products that was an order of magnitude faster than their previous gen and sort of matched AMD's previous flagship (Genoa), Turin comes in and absolutely rips Xeons. Even the ARM competition can't hold a candle to it.

In the server space it wasn't anything like Zen 4 > Zen 5, even factoring in Zen 5's sizeable performance increase in server applications. It's more like they jumped two straight generations.

This downward spiral isn't stopping anytime soon. Right now they're just trying to hold on to the markets they have by giving heavy discounts to SI's. , 0:30 Reply.

ScaLibBDP Actually Intel did that many years ago with Intel Xeon Phi processors and failed. This is because for the core part of Intel Xeon Phi architecture Intel Atom architecture was selected instead of Intel Ivy Bridge.

I was using an Intel Xeon Phi server for many months to port a medium size C/C++ project. All my feelings I would describe as follows ( some kind of transitions ):

Very Excited -> I have a lot of questions -> Sorry, but that does Not work Too Fast and I need More memory! -> On one morning the Project was cancelled. Oops...

Low power - Intel Atom based low power cores did Not help. The Intel Xeon Phi servers were using a lot of power.

Number of Cores - Looked good but out of 256 Logical Processors only 64 had to be used in order to achieve top HPC performance ( in FLOPS ).

Note: There was only one physical FPU ( Floating Point Unit ) for 4 Logical Processors in a physical core.

Pricing - All these Intel Xeon Phi servers were very-very expensive. SMT4 was a strange choice for a HPC focused product. SMT4 was a strange choice for a HPC focused product. , 0:37 Reply.

223 Fan 14th Gen reliability issues were also first noticed in server farms. Not on datacenter Xeons. Those were socket 1700 units, just in mainboards that support ECC memory (unbuffered).

As far as I have seen the Xeons have at least been problem free. Let's not forget that they wasted development effort on special computation units for the current Xeons. I don't think anybody is using [website] on datacenter Xeons. Those were socket 1700 units, just in mainboards that support ECC memory (unbuffered).As far as I have seen the Xeons have at least been problem free. , 0:52 Reply.

AnotherReader SMT4 was a strange choice for a HPC focused product. Here are specs for Intel Xeon Phi Processor 7210 I was working with:

Intel Xeon Phi Processor 7210 ( 16GB, [website] GHz, 64 core ).

Processor name: Intel(R) Xeon Phi(TM) 7210.

Note: Calculated as follows: [website] * 64 * ( 512-bit / 32-bit ) * 2 = [website] GFLOPs for Single-Precision FPU data type.

Another tech-mess was related to AVX-512 because of fragmentation the AVX-512 ISA.

It was hard to imaging that Intel did it!

- Intel AVX-512F Foundation instructions.

- Intel AVX-512CD Conflict Detection instructions.

- Intel AVX-512ER Exponential and Reciprocal instructions.

- Intel AVX-512PF Prefetch instructions.

- Intel AVX-512BW Integer operations on 8-bit and 16-bit operands.

- Intel AVX-512DQ Enhanced Integer and Floating-Point operations on 32-bit and 64-bit operands.

- Intel AVX-512VL Vector Length Extensions.

Intel Xeon Phi processor x200 products support:

- Intel AVX-512F Foundation instructions.

- Intel AVX-512CD Conflict Detection instructions.

- Intel AVX-512ER Exponential and Reciprocal instructions.

- Intel AVX-512PF Prefetch instructions.

- Intel AVX-512F Foundation instructions.

- Intel AVX-512CD Conflict Detection instructions.

- Intel AVX-512BW Integer operations on 8-bit and 16-bit operands.

- Intel AVX-512DQ Enhanced Integer and Floating-Point operations on 32-bit and 64-bit operands.

- Intel AVX-512VL Vector Length Extensions.

... Here are specs forI was working with:Processor name: Intel(R) Xeon Phi(TM) 7210Packages ( sockets ): 1Cores: 64Processors ( CPUs ): 256Cores per package : 64Threads per core: 4Peak Processing Power: [website] TFLOPsNote: Calculated as follows: [website] * 64 * ( 512-bit / 32-bit ) * 2 = [website] GFLOPs for Single-Precision FPU data typeAnother tech-mess was related tobecause of fragmentation [website] was hard to imaging thatdid it!...- Intel AVX-512F Foundation instructions.- Intel AVX-512CD Conflict Detection instructions.- Intel AVX-512ER Exponential and Reciprocal instructions.- Intel AVX-512PF Prefetch instructions.- Intel AVX-512BW Integer operations on 8-bit and 16-bit operands.- Intel AVX-512DQ Enhanced Integer and Floating-Point operations on 32-bit and 64-bit operands.- Intel AVX-512VL Vector Length Extensions.- Intel AVX-512F Foundation instructions.- Intel AVX-512CD Conflict Detection instructions.- Intel AVX-512ER Exponential and Reciprocal instructions.- Intel AVX-512PF Prefetch instructions.- Intel AVX-512F Foundation instructions.- Intel AVX-512CD Conflict Detection instructions.- Intel AVX-512BW Integer operations on 8-bit and 16-bit operands.- Intel AVX-512DQ Enhanced Integer and Floating-Point operations on 32-bit and 64-bit operands.- Intel AVX-512VL Vector Length Extensions.... , 1:16 Reply.

I hope Intel continues purposely to disable AVX-512 instructions in its home user CPUs. For those who don't know, AVX-512 instructions have been present in all "Core ix" home CPUs since the 6th generation Sky Lake launched in 2015, but Intel chose to leave them disabled in home user CPUs (Core line) and keep them enabled only in its Xeon CPUs, because the Xeon CPUs are more expensive.

Intel's managers must think the world is still in the 80s and 90s... They will reap all what they sow... , 5:14 Reply.

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