AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU Accounts for Almost 90% of "Zen 5" Sales, Rest of 9000 Series in Trouble - Related to series, 8-pin, power, connectors, march

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU Accounts for Almost 90% of "Zen 5" Sales, Rest of 9000 Series in Trouble

Based on the MindFactory sales data for January 2025 , we have seen AMD push a significant share of sales and revenue at the German PC hardware store. However, an interesting observation lies in the details. AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU was the best-selling SKU at 8,390 units sold. An entire AM5 platform recorded sales of 18,410 units, which puts the eight-core X3D SKU on the top, with 46% of consumers on the AM5 platform going with this CPU. The rest of the AMD Ryzen 9000 series performed poorly, with other SKUs reaching only up to 3% of AM5 socket sales. This means that out of 100% "Zen 5" units sold, the leading Ryzen 7 9800X3D SKU captured 87% of sales. The AMD Ryzen 9000 series is performing exceptionally only due to its only available AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D SKU selling 46% of the AM5 [website] standard Ryzen 9000 series SKUs, the Ryzen 7 9700X achieved 640 units in sales, while the Ryzen 5 9600X, Ryzen 9 9950X, and Ryzen 9 9900X recorded 250, 230, and 180 units respectively. These figures suggest significantly lower market penetration for non-X3D variants in the retail channel. The data points to a clear market preference for gaming-optimized processors, indicating AMD's strategic focus on X3D variants—despite their higher manufacturing costs and retail premiums—is likely to continue. While MindFactory's sales data represents just one retailer in the German market, the overwhelming consumer preference for the 9800X3D over standard Zen 5 SKUs signals that consumers are ready to pay a premium for more performance and that the X3D effect reflects positively on the sales.

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They're also one of the only reliable findings of 9800X3D in EU right now at MSRP. , 12:14 Reply.

Fishfaced Nincompoop Chaitanya Not really surprising. Very much not surprising.

7900X €408 - 9900X €474 Very much not [website] 7600 €193 - 9600X €2777700 (tray) €273 - 9700X €3727900X €408 - 9900X €474 , 12:20 Reply.

it’s a disappointing generation from both Intel and amd.

Both should look in to making a core that targets high clocks , 12:20 Reply.

As I noted before? AMD really shouldn't be releasing anything but X3D CPU's at this point, they are great CPU's, the rest is just a waste of sand. People want an all-round solution that kicks ass, why is this so hard to understand? , 12:21 Reply.

Makes sense, zen5 was pretty bad. 3d cache layout changes being the only real improvement.. , 12:24 Reply.

Most of the 9000-series is just more expensive higher-power-limit 7000-series, so there's really no reason for anyone to pony up for the former if buying AM5 for the first time. Plus a lot of people jumped on the AM5 train when it arrived and are perfectly happy with their 7000-series CPUs, so no reason for them to "upgrade" to 9000-series. I suspect the 9800X3D sales are mostly new AM5 buyers.

Things will improve for 9000-series overall once 7000-series stock dries up. , 12:34 Reply.

As good as the 9800X3D I am not gonna spend like £491 on it since my AMD Ryzen 7 7700 non-x does the job for me really great and I do not want to waste my money, just waiting on gaming performance on the RX 9070 XT to see if I should just buy a RX 7900 XTX instead for 1440p gaming. , 12:40 Reply.

seems like way too much money for a CPU to be selling like this, just it seems to me way to much money for the GPU's, but hey if everyone is full of cash I'm just poor and should shut up. But no one can really complain about prices. , 12:46 Reply.

Legacy-ZA As I expressed before? AMD really shouldn't be releasing anything but X3D CPU's at this point, they are great CPU's, the rest is just a waste of sand. People want an all-round solution that kicks ass, why is this so hard to understand? Zen 5 is a AVX512 core, which is what no one really wants in this space. Especially on 6-8 core parts, where you are likely not needing that.

If it was designed as an overall improvement or, heck, even was priced at Zen 4 levels, it would sell well enough.

The fact that the IOD is the same is also a huge drag for these chips. Zen 5 is a AVX512 core, which is what no one really wants in this space. Especially on 6-8 core parts, where you are likely not needing [website] it was designed as an overall improvement or, heck, even was priced at Zen 4 levels, it would sell well [website] fact that the IOD is the same is also a huge drag for these chips. , 12:46 Reply.

I would have upgraded from the 7600x to the 9600X. The resale value is poor and the purchase value is poor. I would have switched but not for any price. I just have a placeholder cpu. Also a downgrade is a joke as those processors have poor buy and resell values on the second hand market. I looked for months on the 7500F and gave up.

I do need that AVX512 for my software. The only real feature for the ryzen 9000.

Mindfactory could sell much more if they were not *** (very bad word) and only sell to german shipping addresses. other germany based shop sell to neighbour countries. I do not want to pay a dubious service to temporarily buy a german shipment address.

I think those 9800x3d sales are only from those high end gamers. For computing tasks I would buy a 16 core ryzen processor with or without 3d cache.

nvidia 4080 super or similar paired with a 500 € asus mainboard with the best "gaming cpu" .de / [website] / techpowerup / [website] to name a few sites. , 12:51 Reply.

The 9950X is improved than the 7950X, and the 9700X is improved than the 7700X - both at very similar prices. The problem is that the 7000-series got good launch reviews, whilst the 9000-series got bad launch reviews.

It doesn't matter that the 9000-series has newer, excellent reviews after the BIOS updates and windows patches, Search engines favour the more popular launch-day reviews which were fumbled by AMD. , 12:51 Reply.

Evrsr The fact that the IOD is the same is also a huge drag for these chips. Yeah - focusing on AVX-512 after Intel basically killed it off in the consumer space, while leaving the known crappy Zen 4 IOD as-is and allowing ARL to one-up AMD on connectivity, was a perplexing pair of choices for me. Zen 6's IOD needs to be massively improved if AMD wants to keep the momentum going. Yeah - focusing on AVX-512 after Intel basically killed it off in the consumer space, while leaving the known crappy Zen 4 IOD as-is and allowing ARL to one-up AMD on connectivity, was a perplexing pair of choices for me. Zen 6's IOD needs to be massively improved if AMD wants to keep the momentum going. , 12:52 Reply.

Now that the X3D have zero downsides because they put the V-Cache beneath the compute die, why have 2 cheaper versions of the 8-core CPU, namely 9700 and 9700X?

They could have just made 9700 and 9800X with the X implying additional V-Cache, no need for the "3D" in the suffix anymore.

I would also argue that the 12-core X3D SKU, and the non-X3D 16-core SKU are pointless.

So the lineup could have been simplified to:

(with the X implying V-Cache) , 12:54 Reply.

Chrispy_ The problem is that the 7000-series got good launch reviews, whilst the 9000-series got bad launch reviews. I wouldn't say "bad" for the latter, more "middling". Chrispy_ Search engines favour the more popular launch-day reviews It's stupid that this is the case, though. A review is a temporally contextual piece of information, therefore priority should be given to the most recent, not the most visited. I wouldn't say "bad" for the latter, more "middling".It's stupid that this is the case, though. A review is a temporally contextual piece of information, therefore priority should be given to the most recent, not the most visited. , 12:55 Reply.

dismuter Now that the X3D have zero downsides because they put the V-Cache beneath the compute die, why have 2 cheaper versions of the 8-core CPU, namely 9700 and 9700X?

They could have just made 9700 and 9800X with the X implying additional V-Cache, no need for the "3D" in the suffix anymore.

I would also argue that the 12-core X3D SKU, and the non-X3D 16-core SKU are pointless.

So the lineup could have been simplified to:

(with the X implying V-Cache) because the 3D name is already established, it alone sells cpus.

If you remove it many consumers would go:

"11800X? when is the 3D Version coming out?"

I think it would be a poor choice to give that name up. because the 3D name is already established, it alone sells [website] you remove it many consumers would go:"11800X? when is the 3D Version coming out?"I think it would be a poor choice to give that name up. , 12:58 Reply.

TechPowerUp: Right now, the volumes are heavily skewed toward X3D.

David McAfee: Not really. You'd be surprised. On a global scale, the split between AM4 and AM5 is not far off from 50/50. Different markets have different preferences. North America and Western Europe skew toward higher-end AM5 builds. The two statements don't necessarily contradict: global sales could be 50% AM4, 45% 9800X3D, 5% AM5-other. But I suspect MindFactory's sales aren't representative of the whole market. From [website] The two statements don't necessarily contradict: global sales could be 50% AM4, 45% 9800X3D, 5% AM5-other. But I suspect MindFactory's sales aren't representative of the whole market. , 12:59 Reply.

With Intel not really hitting the mark on the CPU side, really brought a lot of buyers to opt for 9800x3D instead of Intel systems.

Not releasing any other x3D cpu's, also increased the scope of sales towards the 9800x3D.

All in all for everyone looking for raw performance for gaming, i guess that was a catalyst for 9800x3D sales boom vs any other zen5 cpu's. , 13:14 Reply.

Main reason for this is mediocre generational uplift between non3d 7000 and 9000 series while 9000 series CPUs are quite a bit more expensive. There is no reason for 7000 series owners to upgrade. And for new AM5 customers, unless you absolutely want the best of the best 7000 series offer much superior price/performance. It also makes more sense to buy 7500f-7600 and wait until until next generation if you have low budget now (expecting much superior gen to gen uplift). They are just as capable as 9600, support exact same things and cheaper. , 13:25 Reply.

TSiAhmat because the 3D name is already established, it alone sells cpus.

If you remove it many consumers would go:

"11800X? when is the 3D Version coming out?"

I think it would be a poor choice to give that name up. I'm sure they'd figure it out, unless they stop buying CPUs forever because of the missing "3D".

Regardless, it wasn't my main point, it was about simplifying the line-up. I'm sure they'd figure it out, unless they stop buying CPUs forever because of the missing "3D".Regardless, it wasn't my main point, it was about simplifying the line-up. , 13:29 Reply.

Assimilator It's stupid that this is the case, though. A review is a temporally contextual piece of information, therefore priority should be given to the most recent, not the most visited. I don't make the SEO rules, that's just how it is.

AMD know this - so rushing out a half-baked launch is extra dumb and 100% on them. I don't make the SEO rules, that's just how it is.AMDthis - so rushing out a half-baked launch isdumb and 100% on them. , 13:31 Reply.

adilazimdegilx Main reason for this is mediocre generational uplift between non3d 7000 and 9000 series while 9000 series CPUs are quite a bit more expensive. There is no reason for 7000 series owners to upgrade. And for new AM5 clients, unless you absolutely want the best of the best 7000 series offer much more effective price/performance. It also makes more sense to buy 7500f-7600 and wait until until next generation if you have low budget now (expecting much more effective gen to gen uplift). They are just as capable as 9600, support exact same things and cheaper. I'll go further and say that, unless you spend a lot to get the best, there's no reason to even upgrade from AM4 to AM5.

If someone has a AM4 computer, they can just buy a 5700X/3D on AliExpress, the same way they would buy a 7400/7500F, and call it a day.

Then consider AM5 if the next generation provides a noticeable uplift, if not, just wait to AM6 I'll go further and say that, unless you spend a lot to get the best, there's no reason to even upgrade from AM4 to AM5If someone has a AM4 computer, they can just buy a 5700X/3D on AliExpress, the same way they would buy a 7400/7500F, and call it a dayThen consider AM5 if the next generation provides a noticeable uplift, if not, just wait to AM6 , 14:00 Reply.

very good for AMD, 9800x3d It is the processor with the highest profit margins!!! , 14:01 Reply.

kondamin Both should look in to making a core that targets high clocks Intel says they don't want a repeat of Pentium 4 Intel says they don't want a repeat of Pentium 4 , 14:46 Reply.

You can't even get a 9800X3D at MSRP in New Zealand.

The it's Unobtaintium. It's cheaper to buy a Threadripper or Xeon from some retailers. Just unreal. , 14:47 Reply.

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 and RTX 5060 Ti Could Use Standard 8-Pin PCI Power Connectors

The GPU market is heating this March as both NVIDIA and AMD prepare to launch competing mid-range graphics cards. NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5060 and RTX 5060 Ti, part of its Blackwell architecture lineup, are rumored to debut alongside AMD's Radeon RX 9070 and 9070 XT, setting the stage for a high-stakes battle in the mainstream gaming segment. , including ZOTAC-affiliated leakers, the RTX 5060 series will retain traditional 8-pin power connectors instead of adopting NVIDIA's newer 12V-2x6 16-pin design, simplifying upgrades for people with older PSUs.However, the cards will reportedly require a minimum 650 W power supply—a 100 W increase over the RTX 4060 series—with estimated total graphics power (TGP) of 150 W for the RTX 5060 and 200 W for the Ti variant. While NVIDIA has not confirmed specifications, the RTX 5060 Ti will reportedly launch in two variants: 8 GB and 16 GB GDDR7 configurations, leveraging a 128-bit bus.

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Such attractive power usage, wonder what the performance will look like. , 21:32 Reply.

Legacy-ZA Such attractive power usage, wonder what the performance will look like. wimpy, gimpy, and dimpy, just like all of nGreediya's cards of the past 10 yrs or [website] other words: 2-5% increases, at MOST...

As for the connectors, as long as they don't melt, then so much the more effective :) wimpy, gimpy, and dimpy, just like all of nGreediya's cards of the past 10 yrs or [website] other words: 2-5% increases, at [website] for the connectors, as long as they don't melt, then so much the more effective :) , 22:18 Reply.

8 GB and 16 GB GDDR7 configurations, leveraging a 128-bit bus. Ngreedia still trying to push entry level garbage as mainstream to the plebs. Ngreedia still trying to push entry level garbage as mainstream to the plebs. , 22:51 Reply.

bonehead123 wimpy, gimpy, and dimpy, just like all of nGreediya's cards of the past 10 yrs or [website] other words: 2-5% increases, at MOST... Literally the only card so far with THAT bad of an uplift gen on gen for the same tier of model is the 5080 (even then it’s closer to 10-ish% averaged out at 4K). So I wouldn’t start ringing that particular alarm just yet. And 10 years? It’s 2025. 10 years ago was sandwiched between Maxwell and Pascal releases, which were a lot of things, but wimpy with low increases? Absolutely not. Literally the only card so far with THAT bad of an uplift gen on gen for the same tier of model is the 5080 (even then it’s closer to 10-ish% averaged out at 4K). So I wouldn’t start ringing that particular alarm just yet. And 10 years? It’s 2025. 10 years ago was sandwiched between Maxwell and Pascal releases, which were a lot of things, but wimpy with low increases? Absolutely not. , 23:33 Reply.

[website] Personally I see no issue of them having only 8GB considering they're practically 1080p cards. At least the difference between 4060 Ti 8GB vs 16GB was practically marginal. And when thinking of the difference between 4080S and 5080, I doubt that 5060 series are much faster than the 4060 series. , 0:08 Reply.

But will the 5060 serve as a worthwhile upgrade to the 3060 (currently the most popular GPU on Steam). The 4060 certainty wasn't. , 0:10 Reply.

Wow, I think this is a new low as far as source reliability goes. We've begun to get hardware news off TikTok. , 0:52 Reply.

[website] Dr. Dro Wow, I think this is a new low as far as source reliability goes. We've begun to get hardware news off TikTok. Honestly, that's even worse source as tabloids in general. Honestly, that's even worse source as tabloids in general. , 0:54 Reply.

The Nvidia 5060 will serve as a worthwhile replacement for dead older graphic cards.

The title says * could use *. So everything is speculation and no facts , 0:59 Reply.

About that recommended PSU, has anyone noticed how much a dive power draw takes once you enable Vsync and limit rendering to 60fps? , 1:09 Reply.

bug About that recommended PSU, has anyone noticed how much a dive power draw takes once you enable Vsync and limit rendering to 60fps? Obviously, and the dive becomes deeper for the most powerful GPUs. Obviously, and the dive becomes deeper for the most powerful GPUs. , 2:12 Reply.

[website] bug About that recommended PSU, has anyone noticed how much a dive power draw takes once you enable Vsync and limit rendering to 60fps? Those PSU recommendations are always practically for the F-tier worst ones.

Add undervolting to those as well. ;) Those PSU recommendations are always practically for the F-tier worst [website] undervolting to those as well. ;) , 2:15 Reply.

People can say what they want 8GB is paltry for Gaming at anything over 1080P. I look forward to the Indiana Jones raw numbers for these cards. Or everyone favourite to bash Spiderman 2. , 2:16 Reply.

very low power and with few generational uptake, this doesn't look good unless they have a metric ton of cores extra in comparison to the 4060 cards. , 2:21 Reply.

Ruru Those PSU recommendations are always practically for the F-tier worst ones.

Add undervolting to those as well. ;) Not necessarily for the worst PSUs, but they do have to assume you'll be running a number of peripherals, maybe more than one SSD and sometimes a few add-in cards. Not necessarily for the worst PSUs, but they do have to assume you'll be running a number of peripherals, maybe more than one SSD and sometimes a few add-in cards. , 2:24 Reply.

bug Not necessarily for the worst PSUs, but they do have to assume you'll be running a number of peripherals, maybe more than one SSD and sometimes a few add-in cards. to go from 200 to 650W you have to be running a small army of hard drives to go from 200 to 650W you have to be running a small army of hard drives , 2:27 Reply.

Bomby569 to go from 200 to 650W you have to be running a small army of hard drives You know there's someone out there running exactly that.

Joking aside, that 650W is spread across 3 rails. That makes these "recommended PSU wattage", pretty meaningless. You can be well below the rated number, but if you you load one rail excessively, your PSU will still run out of juice without going anywhere near the max. You know there's someone out there running exactly [website] aside, that 650W is spread across 3 rails. That makes these "recommended PSU wattage", pretty meaningless. You can be well below the rated number, but if you you load one rail excessively, your PSU will still run out of juice without going anywhere near the max. , 2:34 Reply.

bonehead123 wimpy, gimpy, and dimpy, just like all of nGreediya's cards of the past 10 yrs or so..... What are you running?

I only see you posting in the news section and never anywhere else :confused:

Should you even be posting about current hardware :laugh: What are you running?I only see you posting in the news section and never anywhere else :confused:Should you even be posting about current hardware :laugh: , 5:18 Reply.

kapone32 People can say what they want 8GB is paltry for Gaming at anything over 1080P. I look forward to the Indiana Jones raw numbers for these cards. Or everyone favourite to bash Spiderman 2. I’m playing Forbidden West at 1080p and it will pull 9-10GB on my 6700xt. I’m sure I could run it okay on 8GB (I ran it on 6GB on lower settings), but it obviously will make use of more. I’m playing Forbidden West at 1080p and it will pull 9-10GB on my 6700xt. I’m sure I could run it okay on 8GB (I ran it on 6GB on lower settings), but it obviously will make use of more. , 6:27 Reply.

This will be a selling point for a lot of people. I wonder if this will be done for the 5070? , 7:58 Reply.

The best news in the whole 50-series so far. , 10:15 Reply.

Amazing. RT 5030 /50 aka 5060/Ti should be powered by the slot. Not requiring any , 10:38 Reply.

N/A Amazing. RT 5030 /50 aka 5060/Ti should be powered by the slot. Not requiring any Sure, but if 4060 on TSMC N4 did 115 W, then the 5060 on the same TSMC N4 has to eat more in order to be faster. Unless there's architectural improvements, of which there are plenty of, right? Right? :p Sure, but if 4060 on TSMC N4 did 115 W, then the 5060 on the same TSMC N4 has to eat more in order to be faster. Unless there's architectural improvements, of which there are plenty of, right? Right? :p , 10:49 Reply.

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