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A TINY $25 CPU Cooler Might Be All You Need!

I want to talk a little bit about CPU cooler sizes. Now we all know the typical 120mm models – like the 212 Evo that we just reviewed – but. Then there is the massive ones like the Dark Rock Pro 4 from be quiet! It’s 140mm in size, it’s just a beast and a weapon if you need that kind of cooling capacity.

However, be quiet! just released a new iteration of their Pure Rock Slim series, and this little thing is the Pure Rock Slim 2. Look at the size difference even between this 92mm cooler and a common 120mm one. The reason it’s so small is that it’s meant to have super broad compatibility. It takes a bunch of the technologies that are present in the higher-end heat sinks and puts them into something that costs just $25. In this review I want to go over why this might be all that you need for your system.

I also wanted to discuss a little bit of the price controversy about this little cooler, and. A lot of the other components on the market right now. Officially it is $25 not on sale, so it might even go lower than that, but the problem is right now is third-party sellers have actually started buying new PC components that are just released and. Reselling them on Amazon and on Newegg. So you are going to have to do a little bit of looking through the listings in order to actually find this for $25, but. It is out there. Now look 92mm coolers are nothing new on the market, there are a bunch of other companies that have actually come out with these over the years. But this might actually be one of the least expensive ones from a big name manufacturer.

Moving onto size and this thing is fricking tiny. It is only 135mm high, 82mm deep, and 97mm wide. That is a heck of a lot more compact than a typical tower style heatsink, like the Noctua NH-U12S and. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo I mentioned just a while ago. This is actually perfect in height restrictive situations where you might actually want a cooler working with the case airflow rather than against it. Or if you a system that doesn’t really need an AIO or you don’t want to spend the money on one. A perfect example of this as the NR200, which can take a max cooler height of 155mm. Which puts even something like the compact Hyper 212 series completely out of contention.

But what you get with the Pure Rock Slim 2? Well it’s a super basic design. There is a dense fin array along with three 6mm copper heatpipes that float down into a heatpipe direct touch base. That base had pre-applied thermal compound on it, but unfortunately I didn’t realize that and. I touched it so we had to wipe it off to make sure all of these shots were done. The 92mm fan is pretty much par for the course with almost everything be quiet! does. This is their Pure Wings 2 model, and in this case it’s operating at 2300 RPMs. Now that might sound like a lot given the fact that a lot of 120mm coolers are well below that, but in this case this is actually one of the quietest fans that we have come across, I will talk a little bit more about that later.

At the same time. You might be wondering what are the differences between the Pure Rock Slim 2 and the original Pure Rock Slim? Actually, there aren’t that much. First of all, be quiet! extended this fin array just a little bit in the back. There has also been a little bit of a change to the base plate, but by far the biggest change is probably in this fan and in the installation process.

That installation is now completely revised and. It’s super, super easy. In fact this might be one of the easiest ones I have come across. First of all, the AMD bracket is actually pre-installed, and props to be quiet! for actually doing that and acknowledging the fact that AMD systems are selling like hotcakes. I also wanted to talk about the Intel system because it’s not quite as good as I would have wanted. What you have to do is you have to take off these AMD brackets with these 2 screws and. The substitute the Intel brackets.

Unfortunately be quiet! is using the old school Intel pushpin installation method. In reality this is a really good system for ease of use, but it’s not a great method when it comes to mounting pressure. Wwith that out of the way, I wanted to show you how this cooler is actually installed, and. That is onto AMD’s regular mounting hardware that comes with every single motherboard. All you really have to do is flip the cooler over, then take these little brackets and. Push them down so the ribbed part is pointing downwards. Then you just rotate the cooler, clip it into each side, and then just finish the installation by pushing down on one side and theb pushing down on the other.

The one thing that you need to take into account here is that this is not a screw down mount, so there is a little bit of movement. But be quiet! did this in such a way that there is really not much. This is a really well done stock installation. And now about that memory clearance, well this is a super slim cooler so even if all your slots are completely populated by memory there are no possible clearance issues. That is one of the beauties of this cooler, not only the vertical clearance, but also that memory clearance.

With installation out of the way, let’s get right into performance testing. Starting with how the fan speed percentages on this cooler align directly to decibel readings. As we look through this, the incredible thing here is the fan is so quiet that it hit our minimum noise floor at 70%, and. I can’t tell you how impressive this is. Even at full speed it only topped out at around 40 decibels and. That means it has a leg up on a lot of the competition that usually run a lot noisier. Right out of the gate the Slim 2 is super competitive against larger and more expensive coolers. And yes, the Evo 212 does cost more, unless you find it deeply discounted, but even then it’s able to offer Noctua U12S levels of cooling at lower decibel levels than the 212 Evo.

In a more comparative chart, it’s really. Really hard not to like what this little cooler brings to the table since it’s able to stay super quiet while delivering great performance. But look this is at just 95W, so let’s see what a higher wattage does.

Now remember 125W is right up there near the Slim 2’s maximum TDP threshold of 130W, but. It still holds together things super, super well. At first I couldn’t believe these results and ran the test over and over again, but in the end it was still literally matching the NH-U12S up to 37 decibels and. Actually beating the 212 Evo right across every level in this test. To put this into a little bit more context, look the Pure Rock Slim 2 isn’t going to dominate everything and anything, but for its size and price it’s ultra hard to recommend anything else we have tested over this thing, at least in this low price category, but. There’s a little bit of a catch… Moving up to 150W and this thing reaches us thermal capacity super, super fast. There really isn’t anything else to say, you will need a larger cooler at this heat load.

So I guess it’s time to wrap this up and. I think you know where this conclusion is going already. I am super impressed with everything that be quiet! is offering with this little cooler. Not only is it compact, but it also delivers really good performance. Especially against the larger coolers that are out there that might cost a little bit more. It also has a really good installation process, as long as you are okay with using the stock installation process for both AMD and Intel. And it has really good noise levels, so that’s almost like the trifecta of things you look for in a coolers.

All I’m asking you guys to do is do not judge a book by its cover. Most people don’t need a huge heatsink, and this Pure Rock Slim 2 even competes against entry-level coolers that have been around for quite while and. Everybody seems to be buying. I guess that’s pretty much it for review, this to me is that perfect cooler for most people out there and that’s all we can really ask for at this point in time, especially for $25.

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IceSleet X7 Dual – Finally a DIFFERENT CPU Cooler!

I’m going to start this review with a bit of a story. Months ago a business called Iceberg reached out after we restarted our heatsink reviews. We get a ton of requests from different companies, but Mike and I actually thought that this whole thing was fake since every one of their products look like nothing more than a rendering, but. Even then these look like some of the most unique coolers around. So we ended up requesting something to see what actually would end up showing up, and figure that worst was we wouldn’t be getting anything or it might look like something you get order.

Fast forward a bit, and. This showed up: the Iceberg IceSleet X7 Dual. Funky names aside this thing actually looks pretty darn close to those renderings. Now yes you will need a pretty unique build to go along with this particular cooler, but I’m actually sort of digging this look.

Not only that, but. This isn’t a custom job, it is actually available to buy right now at a steep price of about $95 USD. That prices makes a big statement about its performance hints at since it puts the X7 right up against the legendary Noctua NH-U12A. It is also a heck of lot more money than the NH-U12S, NH-U14S, and my personal favorite the Scythe Fuma 2. The question that needs to be answered here is are you just paying for a fancy looking cooler or is there any actual performance to back up that price? Let’s find out!

First off I have to give some credit to Iceberg for using packaging that is completely recyclable. I keep saying this, but I wish more companies would do this. There has also been a lot of thought put into how everything is laid out. You have AMD components in one area and Intel in the other, so there is less chance installation items will get mixed up.

From far away I do have to say that the Iceberg X7’s multi-faceted heatsink cover looks pretty stunning, but. Up close it is a big piece of plastic. Don’t get me wrong there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, but it does cause some small gaps between the different pieces. This thing is just flat out unique, but I’m sure there is going to be people who fall into one of two groups. Either you hate it or you absolutely love it.

And of course there is RGB as well, with both the top logo and. Intake fan being illuminated. I mean it looks okay, but I think this whole thing is superior without any lighting at all. At the same time this design leads to the same problem that Arctic faced with Freezer 50. Both the exterior 120mm and interior 140mm fans are completely built into the frames, so you can’t swap them or replace them if something goes wrong.

Either way, under all that plastic is a really. Really well-built dual tower layout with super thin fin stacks. The plastic actually keeps a lot of the airflow focused at going through those towers, but. I’m not sure if the static pressure on the fans is going to be enough to keep air moving efficiently. Those two towers are each linked to the end of seven 6mm diameter heatpipes that run into a really well finished nickel-plated copper base that looks gorgeous. All in all this thing is really well-built, a lot advanced than I expected from a pretty new business. Then again, the X7 costs almost $100.

As for the overall size, it is pretty bulky at 135mm long by 150mm wide and 166mm high. But the height shouldn’t be a problem for most ATX cases. The length causes some overhang on memory, and if that is the case there is only 45mm of clearance before smacking into the plastic. In general though, for such a chunky heatsink, compatibility shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

The installation process has both positive and negative points. You get clearly marked brackets and bags for Intel and AMD systems. And thankfully there is also a lot of common components for each platform so you don’t get a ton of parts to search through. The quality is on point as well, without anything feeling cheap, and. That tube of thermal compound is a nice touch that should last you for 3 to 4 applications. I really appreciate the way Iceberg approach their installation manual as well, the directions are clear, the illustrations don’t need a magnifying glass to read. And all the parts being manipulated are highlighted in their brands teal color. Overall it’s really well done.

As for the installation itself, well on AMD it’s pretty straightforward. You remove the two side panels from the cooler, then carefully remove the top, making sure that you detach the small RGB power cable. From that point on you will need to remove the stock AMD mounting bracket, reuse the backplate, add studs, and then screw down the retention brackets for the cooler.

As usual Intel’s Socket LGA775, LGA1150 series, LGA1136. And LGA1200 are a bit more complicated since those Intel platforms don’t come with a backplate so you have to use the one that Iceberg provides. I appreciate them sticking to the branding with the blue and gray look, but I hate that it’s plastic. The next steps are the same for every platform and I’m not too crazy about it. Installing the top bracket is pretty straightforward, but for some bizarre reason Iceberg didn’t pre-install the retention arm that has the 2 screws on it. Instead you will need to use the little thumbscrews to secure it in place. Anyways, once that is on just tighten it in place and then get ready for some serious frustration. You the plastic panels might look pretty, but getting them back into place without any gaps is a total pain in the ass. Sometimes you might get lucky, but just be ready to spend maybe 15 minutes or so of pure frustration.

Another thing you will need to take into consideration is memory clearance. Like I mentioned before since the integrated fan will overhang into the slots of most motherboards, so you can’t have memory modules that are more than 45mm tall.

With that out of the way. I think it’s time to move on to our usual temperature testing. Starting at the 120W setting, which basically covers a lot of the mid-to-high-end processors. For anyone wondering here is how the speed percentages on these fans align with decibel readings on this cooler. We are going to start adding these as guidance for anyone who buys one of these heatsinks and wants to replicate our results.

Starting with temperatures over time. Here the Iceberg X7 is able to give similar results to some of the best coolers around at pretty comparable noise levels. It may be 1°C or 2°C hotter, but anything under 65°C is a really respectable result that will cover a good 95% of clients out there. It won’t touch the Fuma 2 though, that is just one impressive cooler. One interesting thing you will notice is the X7’s results carry a lot further to the right in all of our charts, and. That is because its fans get much, much louder as their RPMs level increase. They go all the way up to a screaming 50dB, and. At least at these low heat loads those high fan speeds don’t do a darn thing. Meanwhile, the graph only starts at 36dB since setting the fans to anything under that causes them to stall out. Now for those of you who like something a bit simpler to look at, with a few more coolers added. The chart exhibits how everything lines up. You can see there isn’t a single heatsink that struggles here, unless you go with something on the lower-end.

Switching to 165W, and. This is where things start going a bit janky for the X7 in comparison to the competition. I mean don’t get me wrong under 75°C at 165W heat load it is still completely acceptable, but not for almost $100. There is something else I need to point out, and that is the massive dip between 38dB and 40dB that points towards the fans having a very. Very narrow sweet spot where they deliver optimal cooling performance. Meanwhile, at a standardized 30dB, the X7 trails the pack, but remember increasing fan speeds just a bit to 40dB makes a world of a difference here.

Now this next test is really, really intense because it is actually above Iceberg’s maximum 225W TDP spec for this cooler. But we decided to do it anyway. The result was pretty much expected with the cooler failing the test at 110°C up until the 40dB noise mark, even then it stays at or above 100°C until the fans are screaming along at over 70% and. Louder than anything else in our charts. I really can’t fault Iceberg for this since we are pushing beyond their recommendation. Sadly, at 30dB it couldn’t stop the CPU from throttling, so there isn’t really much to see here.

Overall, the Iceberg X7 doesn’t try to hide what is. It’s a heatsink that is trying to look super unique while also delivering respectable cooling performance. Now regardless of what you think of teal plastic and the RGB combination, that is exactly what it is even if the numbers on groundbreaking. I do need to put this into perspective though, because we put this cooler up against the best of the best and. A cooler doesn’t need to be on the top of a chart to get our approval. The only thing going against the X7 is really it’s price, and of course the janky shroud installation. If you can get past that, and if you want something that looks super unique. You can be confident that it will perform pretty well at reasonable decibel levels. But otherwise, if you are looking for just raw performance, there are a lot of enhanced options out there. Many of which cost a lot less. On that note, thank you so much for reading this review, and let me know what you think about the Iceberg X7. Does it give you that WOW Factor? I’m just curious to know.

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Intel Core i5-11400 Review – NOT as Good as you Think!

So this isn’t really a review that I wanted to make, or I was really planning to make, but. There is a little bit of a story behind why I wanted to get it all off my back. Some of you might remember this Dr. Zaber Sentry ITX case that we reviewed, and I even built my personal PC inside of it that ran a Ryzen 9 3950 X running an Eco-Mode.

Now in order for us to continue testing that chip for a couple of other projects that we are undergoing here at the office I did have to take one for the team, remove it from the system, and. Maybe give myself a little bit of an upgrade or downgrade by buying a Rocket Lake Core i5-11400, which has been super positively reviewed all over the place.

It costs me about $250 Canadian, which actually isn’t that bad considering the price of components here. I installed this into an ITX motherboard, along with the Noctua NH-L9i. Now one thing that really surprised me, even though this is supposedly an efficient 65W chip. The L9i actually had a little bit of a tough time keeping up. And the story behind that is actually what I wanted to share in this review. It’s a story of motherboard shenanigans, some inflated benchmarks that even we have experienced here too, and. Maybe a little bit of a small rookie mistake on my part too. What I wanted to do here is really talk about the i5-11400, why it might not be as good of a CPU as you might be led to believe, and maybe why that might actually be a good thing.

Obviously there is a lot to like about the i5-11400 or else I wouldn’t have spent $250 on one. But there is also a couple of other things you need to know about this chip. This i5-11400 has integrated graphics, but there is also an i5-11400F that doesn’t have integrated graphics and that sells for a little bit less. But right now I think there’s only $10 USD separating the two. Here in Canada we actually can’t get the F model right now. You also need to know that this is the lowest end chip in Intel’s Rocket Lake lineup that doesn’t use the old Comet Lake architecture. Everything in the Core i3 and the Pentium categories those are all still on the older Comet Lake generation.

Like the i5-11500 and the i5-11600 this chip also has 6 cores and 12 threads. But it comes in at just around $185 USD right now. You might be asking, okay, great, these are all 6-core/12-thread chips, so how does Intel differentiate one from the other? And that is simply by limiting clock speeds on the lower end chips. The really interesting right now is how this chip fares versus the Ryzen lineup. While Zen 3 CPU’s are all the rage at the high-end, AMD really did leave the 3600X, 3600, 3300X. And 3100X to battle it out with Intel in more affordable price brackets. The closest competition to the i5-11400 is actually the Ryzen 5 3600X, which is of course using that old Zen 2 architecture. It has the same number of processing threads and cores, but it’s currently going for around $250 USD, and. Yes I know you might be able to get it for less depending on the region that you’re in.

But even the 3600 is still a good amount more than the 11400’s price. Right now at least in the US it’s probably around $200-210. The only thing that comes close to the 11400, at least on AMD side, is the Ryzen 3 3300X, but that CPU only has 4 cores, it still costs around $175. And not only that but it seems to be really, really hard to find. It’s like AMD realized that they made too good of a chip and they haven’t really been rolling these out in huge quantities.

Another thing that Intel added this time for their lower end chips and motherboards is the ability to overclock memory. But still no unlocked core multipliers on the non-K chips. On the other hand, that ability to overclock the memory will give you a little bit more performance. Like we are going to see a little bit later in this review.

Now what about those motherboard shenanigans that I was talking about a little bit before? Shenanigans that inflate benchmark scores, that sort of tripped me up, and. That could probably trip up a bunch of other people too if you don’t know exactly what you’re looking for. Well that all comes down to Multi-Core Enhancement and it’s called something different on every single motherboard brand that we have seen, but. In general it should be called something with Enhancement or Enhanced Turbo or something along those lines. And yes, we have been down this road before, because a couple of generations ago every single motherboard ended up with it being shipped enabled on the Intel platform. And guess what we are still seeing it, but now it’s actually on lower-end chips as well because Intel unlocked that capability since Comet Lake.

But now it’s not actually noted that it’s enabled a lot of motherboards (except ASUS on 1st boot). They just have this enabled through their automatic settings or through their optimized default. We have tested a bunch of them that have it, like the Maximus XIII Hero, the STRIX B560-I Gaming WiFi, and yes that is probably the most essential one of this because it’s actually the motherboard that I chose to run in here. And it’s the one that messed me up quite a bit. There is also the ASUS Z590-A, the AORUS Z590 Master, and the MSI B560 Tomahawk. We have tested all of those boards and they all have it enabled automatically by default. The only one that didn’t have this is the little ASRock B560M-ITX/ac, it runs completely at Intel’s default specs.

I want to talk a little bit more about MCE and sort of dive into it to see how the 11400 actually behaves and. Why it caused a problem for this cooler. To understand a little bit more about MCE, you need to understand Intel’s PL or Power Limit levels. Basically PL2 is a maximum allowable power of the chip for a short-term all-core Turbo workload, and. It allows a CPU to run at higher clock speeds for a very, very short duration. The TAU on the other hand is the maximum amount of time that the higher speed or power can actually be maintained. PL1 on the other hand is what Intel bases their “TDP” spec off of. In the case of the Core i5-11400 the PL1 is 65W but the PL2 is up to 154W, but only for up to 28 seconds.

Multi-Core Enhancement on the other hand isn’t anything new, but. It allows motherboard companies to run Intel CPU’s at or near the higher PL2 limit for longer periods of time. And most of these that we have tested, even in auto mode, are at that PL2 limit for an unlimited amount of time. Now while this might sound like free performance, it’s actually not, there is a price that you have to pay in terms of voltage, power. And heat. And that is sort of where I got a little bit messed up and had my rookie mistake.

I built this system like anybody else would when building one: I built the system outside of the case, I loaded the motherboard’s optimized defaults, I installed Windows. And then I ran a couple of tests to make sure everything was A-OK. It was at that point in time that I realized that this little Noctua cooler was running hotter than it should in those defaults and. It was also running a little bit louder than it should be.

To highlight that I really wanted to dive in a little bit further into this. When it comes to input power, ASUS obviously has MCE enabled by default in its auto mode since the 11400 really does stick to that 120W right across the board. Without it the chip behaves exactly like Intel specs say it should by running at 120W for a few moments and. Then dropping down to 65W for the rest of the workload. You can actually see why the motherboard companies do this. I mean you wouldn’t want your prized motherboard looking bad in reviews now would you? But at the same time, it can also cause some pretty major problems.

In order to highlight that even more I decided to test the i5-11400 with Intel’s boxed cooler. For those who don’t want to spend extra money on cooling. That stock cooler has been upgraded just a little bit, it now has an all-black design and. It has the same copper heat core that came with higher end coolers from the previous generation. Let’s dive into that while also adding a Noctua NH-U12S to show what a higher end heatsink will have to deal with.

At Intel’s default speed and power, neither heatsink has much trouble. But the stock one did start getting a little bit toasty during Intel’s PL2 phase. And that leads to an obvious issue, which is that if you use the stock cooler you might be in for a nasty surprise if you run it at your motherboards default settings that have MCE enabled. In that scenario temperatures shot right up to 96°C before stabilizing at 90°C. This is basically what happens to the Noctua NH-L9i too. While it’s superior than the stock cooler by a long shot, it’s rated for 95W which is a lot more than the supposed 65W TDP of this chip. It was just not designed to handle this high of a constant thermal load. As a matter of fact, Noctua has now even added power warnings to all of the low-end Rocket Lake chips on their product page.

Anyways, temperature stability from the last chart is actually due to the motherboard sensing a potential thermal throttling situation and. Cutting back clock speeds about 200MHz lower in order to keep things under control. But add that Noctua NH-U12S to this and well temperatures are a lot lower, but. Even with the relatively high-end air cooler there is still a surge of about 15°C on average over Intel’s defaults. Now I know a lot of you are going to be running upgraded cooling solutions, but. When it comes to a more affordable processor a lot of people are going to expect to be running the stock Intel cooler. The last thing you want, or even somebody like me who’s running a higher end system but doesn’t have the space for a larger air cooler is for your motherboard to be causing you problems.

Motherboards overriding Intel’s limits is also what’s causing a lot of the variance that we are seeing across the internet right when it comes to results for the 11400. So what I really want to get to now is those benchmarks, real-world apps, gaming, and maybe a little bit of memory overclocking. In the benchmarks, I’m going to show both with and without MCE enabled, but. You can take this for basically any of the motherboards out there right now. That way at least you can be the judge if the increased power and temperatures are worth it for you or for your cooling system.

Starting with Cinebench R15. You can be a good judge of exactly what many motherboards end up doing to inflate results. There is a huge difference between the two settings. Basically, if you are getting over 3600 in Cinebench R20 there is some serious enhancement going on behind the scenes pushing PL1 clocks beyond Intel’s defaults, but then again this type of enhancement doesn’t impact single core results since in lightly threaded scenarios the CPU can hit and maintain its maximum Turbo frequencies without any help.

Moving outside of synthetics though, that situation plays itself over and. Over again in GPU accelerated apps like DaVinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere where there isn’t a full multi-core workload. I should also mention how amazingly competitive the i5-11400 is against AMD chips that cost a heck of a lot more. But in heavily multi-threaded scenarios the i5-11400 does lose to everything except the Ryzen 3 3300X, mostly due to its lower clocks. However, having that multi-core enhancement on suddenly makes it look a lot more competitive and. You can see why Intel has absolutely no trouble with the motherboard manufacturers enabling this by default.

Moving onto gaming exhibits diminishing returns for multi-core enhancement. You can actually tell which games are truly multi-threaded and which ones just need a few cores operating at their maximum frequency. There are some small improvements here and there, like in the 1% lows, but otherwise there is really not much to talk about. Then again even a completely bone stock i5-11400 is typically able to walk all over the Ryzen 3000 series or at the very least match them. For people building a budget gaming system that’s going to be super key at least until AMD finally rolls Zen 3 into those lower price CPU’s. If that even happens anytime soon due to the current shortages.

Another thing I alluded to before is the memory overclocking. I was wondering whether or not overclocked memory could help someone claw back some of MCE’s performance benefits without the increased heat and power. Unfortunately it looks like having memory a DDR4-4000 Gear 2 doesn’t have much of an effect on most real world situations since the 11400 cant really seem to take advantage of all that speed. Gaming does see a little bit more of a benefit, but. Is that enough to justify spending the money on a kit guaranteed to run at those speeds? Well, not really, but if you do have a kit that can hit those speeds there’s really no downside in trying at least.

I guess that really leads me to summing up my experience with the 11400 and overall it is a great CPU. Even at Intel’s defaults. It’s just really sad that motherboard manufacturers feel the need to pump it up to a point where it actually isn’t a plug-and-play chip anymore. In this market and at this price point people are looking for just that plug-and-play solution where they could pop in the chip, pop on Intel’s cooler. And be off to the races. Unfortunately, in a lot of situations, that is not going to happen and it’s going to cause a lot of issues. Not only that is like I keep on saying in this review, it’s causing benchmark inflation, we have seen this for the last couple of years with multi-core enhancement, except now instead of multi-core enhancement needed to be enabled it’s just auto/default selection.

In the end. Is this CPU worth what I paid for it? I would say absolutely, even at Intel’s defaults, but I just hope that me coming out with my experience and my little rookie mistake and my troubleshooting through all of this process really helps you guys understand some of the limitations and some of those inflated benchmark scores that we have been seeing.

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